Lieutenant Colonel Herbert Mark Prince M.B.E. B.E.M. R.A.M.C.

 

Herbert is one of the people who is remembered on the "balcony stories" in Netley Chapel. He was a very active chap, a cricketer, runner and a great footballer of his day. I was lucky enough to have found his information on the Wellcome library website and for those of you who can't get to Netley, here is his story here.

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Herbert’s father George Prince was born in London about 1849. His mother Fanny nee Irish was born in October 1856 in Farnborough.

George married Fanny in Hound Parish Church on 13th August 1878.

 

The 1881 Census for the District Depot Army Hospital Corps in Aldershot states

 

George age 30, a Private in the Army Hospital Corps. He was born in London.

Fanny age 24 was born in Farnborough.

John George age 1 was born in Butlocks Heath Netley.

Eva Frances under 9 months was born in Aldershot.

 

RG11/785

 

The 1891 census sees the family living in Netley Hospital.

George age 40 was a Private in the Medical Staff Corps

Fanny was 34

John George age 11, a scholar was born in Netley.

Eva age 10, a scholar was born in Aldershot.

George age 5, a scholar was born in Netley.

William age 4, a scholar was born in Netley.

Harry age 1 was born in Netley.

RG12/923

 

Herbert Mark Prince was born in Netley on January 8th 1892.

 

 

 He was baptised in the Chapel of the Royal Victoria Hospital Netley on February 24th 1892.

 

The 1901 census sees the family living in Hound Rd Netley.

 George age 50 is an Army Pensioner.

Fanny his wife age 44.

Herbert age 9 was born in Netley.

Ivy age 5 was born in Netley.

Boarders George Lawrence a Masseur, Edwin Richards a Clerk in the Pay Office and Reuben Main a baker in the RAMC were living with the family.

Whilst he was in the Garrison school, he played cricket…..

1906

 

Herbert was 15 when he enlisted on 14th October 1907.

His mother Fanny died in January 1908.

28th August 1909
1909 RAMC cricket team Boy Prince
The 1911 census shows father George has remarried and is still living in Hound Rd with new wife Jane.
Meanwhile in the 1911 census Herbert is in McGregor Barracks, Aldershot. He is in the Royal Army Medical Corps
1913 Army International English Team
2nd August 1913
15th September 1913
1914 Cpl. Prince winning 440yds race.
Playing for England in 1914

 

Sergeant H.M. Prince of the RAMC, was thought to have been killed by the Germans during the deliberate shelling of one of the British field ambulances.

Sergeant Prince was well known as one of the finest army footballers, and sportsmen will regard his death as a great loss. Sergeant Prince was given his amateur international cap by the F.A. this year, when he played for England in the two matches against Sweden at Stockholm and scored three goals. He has played for the Army, Hampshire and Aldershot in many representative games and was a very fast and clever inside forward.

 

A letter from his father asking him to reply if he is alive. 3rd September 1914.

8th October 1914 mentioned in despatches
On hearing of his death October 1914
Sgt Prince is alive.
5th October 1916

Herbert married Albertine Caroline Van Uytfanck November 1916 in Aire-sur-la-Lys, Pas deCalais.

9th March 1920
November 1920
1920 played against Ireland then played for England in the Olympic games.
1921 Army Cup Final

Father George died on 5th March 1930

May 7th 1937 RAMC Winners of the Aldershot Senior Cup.
1938
30th April 1946 Promoted to Brevet Lieutenant Colonel
1947 Corps Magazine

Herbert’s wife, Albertine Caroline died 27th December 1952 at Guys Hospital London.

He was the Inspecting Officer at a Passing Out Parade on Saturday 6th April 1963 at Queen Elizabeth Barracks Crookham.
1981
Brighton and Hove Gazette date unknown
Died in Clifford House Residential Home, Andover 12th January 1986.
Lt. Col. Herbert Mark Prince M.B.E. B.E.M. R.A.M.C. died on the 12th January 1986 and is buried in the Municipal Cemetery Surbiton, Surrey. Photo from Gravestonephotos.

 

All documents and photographs have been taken from the RAMC Royal Army Medical Corps Muniments Collection on the  Wellcome Library website.

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Ancestry has been used to find the census and marriage records and Gravestonephotos for Herbert and Albertine’s final resting place.

Some newspaper clippings have been dated, but not named.

 

 

On his Army form B199A it states his birthday as 14th January not the 8th 1892.

Born in Netley Abbey. Roman Catholic.

Fought in the Great War 18th August 1914 – 8th July 1919.

He acquired:

Legion of Honour 11th August 1914

Meritorious Service Medal 1st January 1917

Medal of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire 23rd January 1920.

Mentioned in Despatches London Gazette 18th June 1915.

Awarded Kings Silver Jubilee Medal 1937.

Married to Albertine Caroline Prince on 30th November 1916. Children are Albert George Prince born 14th March 1921 and Yvonne Ivy Alice Prince born 21st October 1923.

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